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Jason David's avatar

In the improv comedy tradition of "Yes and..." I submit that Mystery Babylon is also in some sense the modern Western internet before it is turned totally into an Ahrimanic prison*. And in some sense, the United States, or Lady Liberty--the spirit of the US as a nation, whether conceived of as an emergent phenomenon or as a "principalities and thrones" type spirit. There are images of Columbia, as a drunken goddess on an animal's back, that are semi-officially identified with the Statue of (Lady) Liberty.

*The lady currently rides on and depends for power on, the more beastly, openly dictatorial, worker-exploitative, nations of the earth. When the beast turns on her, and strips her of power, mid-Apocalypse, it is the trap of Ahriman discarding with the bait of Lucifer. This may happen suddenly, and may happen to the prevailing spirit or religion you describe Gryphon, while simultaneously befalling the Western internet that houses its mind, and the nation of the US which houses the bulk of its material base and the bulk of its adherents.

Tim C. K. Ice's avatar

I'd also like to point out that there are more than a few parallels between Mary and Venus. Obviously both feminine divine icons, both associated with the sea and the five pointed star (see stella maris). Roses are also traditionally associated with both of these figures. Devotion to Mary includes praying the Rosary. The Rosary as an object itself shares the same image as the symbol of Venus - circular with a descending line and cross at the bottom.. I feel like there is likely another connection here with the Labyrinth itself (which is distinct from a maze) especially in the context of church cathedrals and pilgrimages. I've heard it said before that beauty can be a bridge to experience the divine, with Mary as the temple veil and Venus as the goddess of beauty, I definitely feel some resonance here. Mary especially is often depicted in a mandorla which is no doubt a feminine symbol, and a symbol of light especially the revelation/bringing forth of light.

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